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Posted by JARF on September 28, 1999 at 13:42:39:

In Reply to: The problem with cabals. RP? too easy to get into cabals etc.. posted by Sushi X on September 28, 1999 at 07:02:26:

> Empire, i had people come up to me and demand my armor etc
> like any logical person, i refuse and they start attacking me

what's your point? That's the whole deal behind Empire...oppressing the masses so a few have power. You were one of the masses, not one of the few...so, you got the beat down.

> The Ragers are annonying too, they prevent people from exploring the mage classes.

not really..actually to some degree they make the good mages stand out...and make being a magic user something that requires a bit of strategy...and cunning, as well as a healthy sense of paranioa. I notice that you didn't post that Empire stops people from being a paladin...which I'd warrant has happened more than battle halting someone from being a mage.

> They just pk everyone until
> 1 they get ban, or die of con, or heart blown out
> 2 they are ragers no more, like Hisekler.

Why, why, why must everyone only bring up the bad examples? There are some ragers that have done a better job rp'ing than most other cabals....which I find impressive since a good majority of ragers are seemingly as you hinted at 'mindless pk tools'. (Ghim, Thror, Abernyte, and several others...not having played a rager for quite some time...I tend not to notice them much)
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I understand and feel for those who really join a cabal with purpose or simply trying it.
> heck, i joined the Empire before.
> I also understand the idea of gettins cool powers is fun.
> But comeon, don t join a cabal just to get powers so you can beat on people. Ragers and Empire members fall in this catageory the most.

I applaud you sir! It's nice to see someone actually asking everyone to have a role, and not to just jump on the sheep-wagon and play whoever is in power at the moment. (There is no sarcasm in this, so please don't read any into it)

> I mean hardly anyone else join the Masters or Scarab ? WHY?

Scarab..sure. but Masters? Here is the reason I titled my post what I did...Master's isn't that hard to get into, nor is there any lacking of applicants, or Masters...well when they're not playing they're rager/empires at least.


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There should be some limits and restrictions on joining cabals.
> Empire especially. Any 3 year old can join them

Again, this is the whole point of Empire...there are really two sections to Empire. Section 1) Fodder. Section 2) Leader, or a notable. In this way I think Empire works very much like an evil empire should.

just MHO

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