Re: A few points you seemed to have ignored. n/t:

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Posted by Promenas on December 31, 1999 at 13:36:13:

In Reply to: A few points you seemed to have ignored. n/t posted by The tranny on December 30, 1999 at 16:23:10:

> > Your group of friends killed a Warder, within
> > this group was a Master defiler and a
> > Entropy conjurer, also a defiler

> Well, this puts me in an interesting dilema. I had no idea he was Entropy, and since I told him I obeyed the laws, I suspect he kept it from me on purpose, else I would have left the group. I really don't know what his being a Baron has to do with anything here. Now, I will try to play as if an immortal didn't post his cabal affiliations on the forum for the whole world to see. Masters and warders don't hide their affiliations, Barons often do when they can.

Actually, I'm fairly sure Sebeok wasn't being picky about the fact that he was Entropy, but the fact that he was a conjurer... whether or not conjurer's are natural is a bit of a debate within the Grove. But you were also with a Master, that opposition is rather well-established.

> >It's hardly a
> > case of a lone bloodthirsty warrior warder
> > fighting you alone because you stole her
> > belongings.

> From what I saw, I was the first to get swarmed and attacked. And the two who actually killed him (one being a master defiler as you pointed out) got away. Attacking me before the two that killed him suggests that he was after me because I had his things. That seemed like his highest priority.

Then again, perhaps she killed you first because she felt you were the one most dangerous to leave alive. Or you needed to be taught that travelling with defilers is a bad idea. Or your name was the easiest to type. There are many reasons someone may do things in a particular way.

>
> > Re: your comments about beef jerky and what
> > not being from animals.. you are correct,
> > they are indeed from animals. I'm suprised
> > you were intelligent enough to know that,
> > judging from your posts, but I'll give you
> > credit there. HOWEVER, the difference is that while brownies are wild and protect the
> > wild, cows are infact *DOMESTICATED* animals
> > and are in no way wild.

> This is what I said about brownies:

> 3) Carry brownies, your a defiler, but I've seen warders wearing a leopard skin. And don't tell me you didn't kill it, because I didn't kill the brownie either.

> Where do you see anything about beef? Leopards aren't "*DOMESTICATED*" are they?

I see your point, but on the other hand, we don't cause more leopards to be killed by wearing the skins other people killed them for... while your buying brownies
creates demand, which causes whoever kills them for the seller to kill more brownies.

> > Also.. nowhere does it say that a warder can
> > *only* kill someone if they're a defiler.
> > She is a storm giant, you are an evil human.
> > That's enough reason there to kill you
> > whenever the hell she pleases.

> HELP SYLVAN
> ...The Sylvan Warders will remain neutral with all who do not seek harm to the wilderness...

Helpfiles are guidelines, not necessarily etched in stone rules. Please don't tell me you really think a storm giant will always peaceably
stand by if an evil human were to taunt him, or kill his Dawnie friends, or do other things which offend him/her but don't harm nature.

Besides that, it's usually pretty safe to assume that an evil one has killed natural creatures at some point in their ranking career.

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