Posted by Montolio on November 11, 1999 at 13:55:41:
In Reply to: Re: Please read this (long, but important) posted by Dioxide(VIP) on November 11, 1999 at 11:15:44:
I just want to clear up what points I meant to get across. I have snipped or summed up some of the text just to make things a bit easier to read, but I have attempted not to betray the meaning of the text by doing so. >>Montolio - VIP and IMM status should not be needed. I was speaking in an extreme, ideal sense. In real life, police should be present, courts should be present, enforcement should be present. These things should be there for when people do wrong. But if the ideality of mutual respect is heeded, then the necessity of these things are lessened. When CF went down some time ago, a person made rather leud comments about the status of the game under the guise of Jullias. That is the reality. But if people strive towards the ideal of mutual respect, then that message would not have even been posted. This is the same as with the 'swear script.' The reality is that people swear. The ideal is that we should be able to get our point across without needing to. Ideals are impossible to attain. There is always going to be the one person who betrays the ideal. This is why enforcement is here. Although ideals are impossible to attain, we should still strive for them. We will be all the more better off. I forget where I heard the following statement, but it makes sense: 'Reach for the stars. It may be impossible to get there, but at least you'll get a good stretch, a nice view, and perhaps a low hanging apple for your efforts.' While ideals are hard to reach, we should still strive for them. > Although I disagree with your opinions about the board, I strongly agree with your comments on respect. I appreciate that you disagree with me, and I appreciate your comments, as do I appreciate everyone's comments. Respectful comments and criticism help others to see where they may not have made a point clear. I think that I have cleared up some misunderstandings of what I attempted to convey. Disagreement brings about change, new ideas, new invention, and new convention. Disagreement brings light to problems and misunderstandings. Not everyone has to agree with what I say, nor do I need to agree with what you say. But if we both agree to disagree respectfully, then change can occur. Thanks for your response. -John Fordham
> Dioxide - I have to disagree. VIPs are needed. I can't be the only one monitoring these boards, for 18 heads are definitely better than one. The VIPs are there when posts need to be deleted, things need to be clarified, or small things need to be updated. Many posts are deleted, and thanks to the VIPs you don't need to read the crap. Appreciate them. Also, the IMM flags were distributed so people would know who the Immortals were. I think it's needed.