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Posted by Waigerits(VIP) on November 19, 1999 at 09:01:35:

In Reply to: A huge can of worms... (text) posted by Xeros(VIP) on November 19, 1999 at 08:17:48:

> > Re: Spear Specs: I know spear specs already have impale (great skill IMHO) but they lack something that has troubled me. A spear, like a javelin, was made to thrown. So they should get a skill called javelin, where they can throw the spear a room or 2 away

> Basically, this opens up the whole ranged weapons debate.. ie, why can't you shoot arrows from bows, or throw various weapons, from spears to javelins to daggers to darts.
> The main reason is, play balance, as I understand. If a warrior can throw a weapon a few rooms away, why can't a mage throw a fireball? Right now, the only thrown weapon is a dagger, using hurl, and that only works in the same room. Call Lightning works across an area, but has a long wait time to use again, and only works in certain conditions. Adding anything more, IMNSHO, could have some very serious ramifications where balance is concerned, that I just don't see the Imms wanting to take up now, or anytime soon.

> Then you have the fact that spear/staff is hardly a spec in need of more skills. Between spin, impale, misdirect, crescent, and so on, you really aren't hurting for stuff to do in a fight, or tactics to use on people.

I remember some discussion about ranged weapons
long time ago (on Glimo's?). One of the reasons
they aren't in CF is also that there is no room
size parameter. You can have something like a
'A Small Room' or a 'Huge Hall'. Throwing across
the first could be possible, trowing across second
could be not.
Also, what should you/mobs do when someone is throwing
or shooting something at them? Run to them and attack
them? This opens a big problem of mobs that should
not move (like cabal mobs) and players that could be
taken from a guild/cabal/something automatically.
If mob/player doesn't move, this allows people kill big
mean mobs without losing a single hit.

I think there were other reasons...

Anyway, ranged weapons were discussed a lot, Immortals
in CF don't want them, you should live with it.

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Comments:	> > > Re: Spear Specs: I know spear specs already have impale (great skill IMHO) but they lack something that has troubled me. A spear, like a javelin, was made to thrown. So they should get a skill called javelin, where they can throw the spear a room or 2 away > > Basically, this opens up the whole ranged weapons debate.. ie, why can't you shoot arrows from bows, or throw various weapons, from spears to javelins to daggers to darts. > > The main reason is, play balance, as I understand. If a warrior can throw a weapon a few rooms away, why can't a mage throw a fireball? Right now, the only thrown weapon is a dagger, using hurl, and that only works in the same room. Call Lightning works across an area, but has a long wait time to use again, and only works in certain conditions. Adding anything more, IMNSHO, could have some very serious ramifications where balance is concerned, that I just don't see the Imms wanting to take up now, or anytime soon. > > Then you have the fact that spear/staff is hardly a spec in need of more skills. Between spin, impale, misdirect, crescent, and so on, you really aren't hurting for stuff to do in a fight, or tactics to use on people. > I remember some discussion about ranged weapons > long time ago (on Glimo's?). One of the reasons > they aren't in CF is also that there is no room > size parameter. You can have something like a > 'A Small Room' or a 'Huge Hall'. Throwing across > the first could be possible, trowing across second > could be not. > Also, what should you/mobs do when someone is throwing > or shooting something at them? Run to them and attack > them? This opens a big problem of mobs that should > not move (like cabal mobs) and players that could be > taken from a guild/cabal/something automatically. > If mob/player doesn't move, this allows people kill big > mean mobs without losing a single hit. > I think there were other reasons... > Anyway, ranged weapons were discussed a lot, Immortals > in CF don't want them, you should live with it.

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