I will give one last remark.:

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Posted by Elmaster on December 25, 1999 at 21:17:48:

In Reply to: Completely Wrong!! posted by Endeval (Why don't you post your char name too?) on December 25, 1999 at 06:27:42:

> I have two things to say to you, not more because it is just not worth the time lost:

> 1. I hate it when people kill you just for the fun, without any RP.

To me killing naked people is not really fun. I did do it for an RP reason, and for a personal reason. So all those interested they were.
A: Dont sit at the damn pit naked.
B: Dont sit at the Evil pit naked.
C: If you insist on doing A or B a good idea is to tone down the assholeness a bit, or someone will want to spamp you.
D: I was hoping to teach you that given the three or so minutes of ghost time you can get a few orcish swords, a few opal rings, and maybe a charred bracer or two. That along with some other easy to find gear may make you able to last that extra round.
E: My character is deeply grounded in respect for everyone. Even his most hated enemies. He saw you belittle another, and taunt him because he was below your pk range. Therefore knocking some sense into you was in my characters best interest.
D: I wanted to see if strangle would work...I didnt expect you to just run one room and sit there.

> I OOC told you to RP for this particular reason. You didn't, too bad, don't think I mind.

Here is another thing. Telling someone OOC that their roleplaying is bad is in essence the worst roleplaying you can ever do. Typing and sending OOC in cf ever is not a good idea.

> And you had nothing to give to me, I was naked and, besides, I didn't ask for anything! I just wanted you to roleplay!

I normally love the "After the battle roleplay" and have on many occassions made interesting friends with those that I both kill, and get killed by. What you missed was that you were so pissed you werent watching for my RP. I told you probably a total of 3 or 4 times why I did it, and was more than prepared to do it a 5th time, but you quit. I understand where you are coming from man, I know how it sucks to be killed. But dont let your frustration block your imagination. Not everyone that kills you is going to say "You are evil so I killed you" or "You mage, me hate, me bash". Some people (myself) attempt to develope a deep character, with multiple reasons for doing things. It isnt always cut and dry, but there IS always a reason. Just try to calm down, and find it.

> 2. I brought the thing with the honor because my sphere IS Honor, I was just RPing!

The problem with honor is that a lot of players dont understand that accusing someone of being dishonorable is not a sign of an honorable person. I am sure that somewhere in the definition of honor will be something along the lines of respect. I remember from my old cador and knights days, respect was a pretty big part. I in no way saw you accusing me of being dishonorable a sign that you were rping honor. A suggestion could be that next time you dust yourself off, and send me a tell saying "Soon we shall meet, one on one, and our blades will sing together, and the honorable shall triumph." That to me is a bit better than "You suck, OOC you cant RP for shit. You are dishonorable"

> Sorry it bothers you that much, but I want to remind you CF is in essence a roleplaying game.

You dont say...I thought it was a playerkilling mud that required roleplaying...but wait...Ive only been playing for 3 going on 4 years...I do think I know what the whole thing is about.

> Oh, but perhaps you don't know what RP is, so I looked up the Oxford Dictionary (sorry, it's only the 1990)
> and here is what their definition is: an exercise in which participants act the part of another character.
> I personnally think it is self-explaining.

I thank you for enlightening us all with your candid and resourceful selflessness in helping us all better understand this.

> And to conclude, what would you say to a guy who comes to you and starts telling you that he wants
> to get rid the world of birds, when you are an arial? I told him that I like to slaughter humans (yes, again that damned RP).
> I do not know why you took it personal, since you were an arial like me but... well... it's your problem.

I have absolutly no earthly Idea what you are talking about. I iced you because of the many above reasons. But the more I think of how you are responding to my post, you do come across as one of those "You mage, me kill" or as you put it "I hate humans, so I am going to kill you." Its kinda pokemonish in its maturity...but hey, its a start.

> But it was a nice fight, anyway. He massacred me a little, then I fled (still in the temple) the he massacred me some more.
> 'Till our next fight, please take the time and exercise with your RP, will ya?

Well...I wasnt going to chase you, like I said, strangling you would have been enough to get the point across...but when you flee...dont just sit there. I had plenty of time to sit back and consider if I wanted to go ahead and spank you...in that time your should have had your little butt at least moving somewhere else fast.

> Thank you and Merry Christmas to you all,
> Adrian


Merry Christmas to you as well Adrian. To bring this all to a conclusion, I will say this. We all have our own perceptions of RP. Not all of it is as blatant as you seem to think it has to be. I play CF for fun, and I do RP. If I just wanted to chop shit up there are hundreds of other games that are much easier. But please. Before you go degrading another players RP, think a bit more. I know you were pissed...dying has that effect on people, but as it says in the MOTD Dont take it personal. I have nothing against you as a person...my CHARACTER just was reason to make your CHARACTER stop breathing for a while.

Im on the IRC page quite a bit, so if you want to hash this out a bit more, I would be more than happy to discuss stuff with you. As far as RP, my chars, life, chicks, and guns.

Take it easy,

Big AL

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