Actually, I'll go ahead and put this all to bed.:

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Posted by The Ponderer(VIP) on September 07, 1999 at 07:37:35:

In Reply to: Name a hardcore rager who does not have all thos basic requirements mastered? N/T posted by Daishan on September 07, 1999 at 07:28:29:

Let's say for the sake of argument that Istendil didn't practice anything to above 75% letting it go up naturally instead of spamming it up.

Now let's put Istendil up against Orodeth who we'll assume(again for the sake of argument) mastered everything the moment he got it.

My money is on Istendil.

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