In rare support of the Imms

In rare support of the Imms:
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Posted by Cathoir on September 28, 2000 at 22:48:04:

In Reply to: The obligatory response posted by Nepenthe(IMM) on September 28, 2000 at 22:01:18:

I'm coming in on the string early... but from what i've read, something needs to be clarified. Hifflio put an incredible amount of time in on a character that was both enjoyable and well thought out. Where he went wrong was his expectations of the char and the imms. Say what you will, Hifflio, your heart was set on a quest form or some sort of constant praise/interaction for exemplary roleplay. In the end, all you wanted was to be acknowledged, which was definitely deserved. However, as you play this game for enjoyment, so do the Imms. If they aren't in the mood to spend the hours on a quest form or interact with you, they simply aren't obliged to do it, reguardless of the effort you're putting in. Granted it seems that being an Imm comes with the good and the bad of putting hard work into cf... I still think you expected too much.

Your character was clearly the result of a lot hard work, but say for one week where you're logging in regularly and trying to interact.... while the imms you need have some sort of RL obligations that keep them away. When the Imms come back, any good reason could keep them from continuing your story line. Perhaps some rl problems have put them in a bad mood, or they simply don't feel like doing the coding and just want to enjoy the game they've been away from for a while. This isn't necessarily what happened, but you get the picture. I know the char was around for quite a while, but it's my guess that you played a lot more vigorously in your early 300 hours than your last 200+... part of getting these quest forms or "roleplay rewards" is creating a well developed rp for your char, and part of it is having the right Imm around at the right time.

All in all, well played. Good luck with your next char, and lighten up a bit..

ps. the part about you emoting alone in the tower was scary, wait for some imm response before you get down with your bad roleplaying self! (not saying only roleplay when the imms are watching... but you get the picture).

> > Nepenthe: This is in reference to a response you did on the Boards about how the person who knows how
> > to code forms left and so there would be no new ones.
> > --------

> I was biting my tongue something fierce when I made that post, because at the time the form had been coded and waiting for around two months. For a while (as I understand it) Hiff and Zulg kept missing each other and then Hiff up and disappeared.

> But you know what? It did take some time. Some of us work long hours and just plain don't have a few hours in a row to throw together on something like that at the drop of a hat. I think the shifting setup is pretty cool and all but frankly I could use some of it as a "what not to do" style guide on writing clear code that other human beings can understand. Would it be much easier to do now again, sure.

> > While they may smite me for oversimplifying, adding a form most likely
> > takes no effort greater than that of adding a mobile to an Areafile, and
> > recompiling the code (presuming said forms are in .C not .Are files)

> Psst. . .I don't know if you noticed, but basically every form additionally has some special attack, defense, or neat thing it does. Some of those are harder than others.

>
> I don't know if a role can even be dug up at this point, but I'll have a look.

Follow Ups:

My response Hifflio 23:12:03 9/28/2000 (8)
- yeah, but... Cathoir 04:03:49 9/29/2000 (5)
  - Re: yeah, but... Hifflio 10:27:00 9/29/2000 (4)
    - Hey now... Flontinot 12:50:21 9/29/2000 (3)
      - But Flontinot.. Hifflio got nothing but a title for 500 + hours of Roleplaying. Master Leaders get nothing special... NT maybe 19:07:23 9/29/2000 (2)
        
        Depends on your definition of nothing. Roleplaying is mandatory. Yes, he was far above average. He was going to be rewarded. What's the problem? n/t Flontinot 06:31:20 9/30/2000 (0)
        
        If you don't want to be leader without getting a highly limited quest skill, don't play a Master. n/t Soo 23:23:44 9/29/2000 (0)
- Don't even think you are ranting. Cathoir is saying 'calm down' to a calm person...that would make me an uncalm person real quick - text Nibbechist 23:55:26 9/28/2000 (1)
  - Brilliant observations from Fred Flinstone Cathoir 04:08:39 9/29/2000 (0)

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Comments:	> I'm coming in on the string early... but from what i've read, something needs to be clarified. Hifflio put an incredible amount of time in on a character that was both enjoyable and well thought out. Where he went wrong was his expectations of the char and the imms. Say what you will, Hifflio, your heart was set on a quest form or some sort of constant praise/interaction for exemplary roleplay. In the end, all you wanted was to be acknowledged, which was definitely deserved. However, as you play this game for enjoyment, so do the Imms. If they aren't in the mood to spend the hours on a quest form or interact with you, they simply aren't obliged to do it, reguardless of the effort you're putting in. Granted it seems that being an Imm comes with the good and the bad of putting hard work into cf... I still think you expected too much. > Your character was clearly the result of a lot hard work, but say for one week where you're logging in regularly and trying to interact.... while the imms you need have some sort of RL obligations that keep them away. When the Imms come back, any good reason could keep them from continuing your story line. Perhaps some rl problems have put them in a bad mood, or they simply don't feel like doing the coding and just want to enjoy the game they've been away from for a while. This isn't necessarily what happened, but you get the picture. I know the char was around for quite a while, but it's my guess that you played a lot more vigorously in your early 300 hours than your last 200+... part of getting these quest forms or "roleplay rewards" is creating a well developed rp for your char, and part of it is having the right Imm around at the right time. > All in all, well played. Good luck with your next char, and lighten up a bit.. > ps. the part about you emoting alone in the tower was scary, wait for some imm response before you get down with your bad roleplaying self! (not saying only roleplay when the imms are watching... but you get the picture). > > > Nepenthe: This is in reference to a response you did on the Boards about how the person who knows how > > > to code forms left and so there would be no new ones. > > > -------- > > I was biting my tongue something fierce when I made that post, because at the time the form had been coded and waiting for around two months. For a while (as I understand it) Hiff and Zulg kept missing each other and then Hiff up and disappeared. > > But you know what? It did take some time. Some of us work long hours and just plain don't have a few hours in a row to throw together on something like that at the drop of a hat. I think the shifting setup is pretty cool and all but frankly I could use some of it as a "what not to do" style guide on writing clear code that other human beings can understand. Would it be much easier to do now again, sure. > > > While they may smite me for oversimplifying, adding a form most likely > > > takes no effort greater than that of adding a mobile to an Areafile, and > > > recompiling the code (presuming said forms are in .C not .Are files) > > Psst. . .I don't know if you noticed, but basically every form additionally has some special attack, defense, or neat thing it does. Some of those are harder than others. > > > > I don't know if a role can even be dug up at this point, but I'll have a look.

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