Posted by Nepenthe(IMM) on November 2, 2000 at 12:22:54:
In Reply to: [Deleted] Lelana - Elvis has left the building... posted by Ipsisimus on November 1, 2000 at 17:22:46:
> Nepenthe: I'm not sure why you felt the need to take this as a slam rather than constructive criticism. In my opinion you kept making three mistakes: 1) You kept making deception-based characters when this is seriously not your forte. Maybe all those characters were designed to be obvious compulsive liars who were constantly getting spotted at aforementioned lying, but I don't think so. This is not a big deal. There are a million roles that don't call for it. 2) You tended to make your character look bad by your own forum posts. I didn't know you were Cothurak at the time someone (TotW?) pointed out that you had a decent character but were just making yourself look like a whiner on the forum. . .but I thought "good for him" when you said "You know, maybe I am making an ass of myself, and I'll just stop posting." 3) You tended to demand imm interaction and take it as your due, even when it was inappropriate. I remember how Ivaides just kept talking and talking to a visible Nepenthe. This immortal of Order/Masters doesn't give a damn that you want to follow Scarabaeus. He's not your buddy. He's not some guy you know who you make smalltalk with. He could care less if you live or die and you definitely don't want to draw his (or any immortal's) attention for absolutely no reason. I apologize for not killing Ivaides at that point; maybe it would have driven the idea home. To sum up: I don't think you're irrevocably a blight up on CF, but it's your birthday.
> "Incidentally, as a kindness I'd advise making no further characters along those lines. I'm sure there are some kinds of characters you could play and impress us all. It's my opinion that this is not one of those kinds."
Take a look at Cothurak. He was a decent character. Took some chances, got into some fights, did all right for himself. Then you started posting logs and complaining about various things on the forum (1) and all it really did was cost you respect. Sure, he got unempowered, but he was on the track to getting it back no problem. Then out of nowhere you decide to try to turn him into a deception character (2) even though there is nothing at all in your role to support your assertion-out-of-nowhere that you have been a deception character all along and were just using Zulghinlour for powers. This also brings in (3), because you're suddenly expecting an immortal who for the first 51 levels of the character's life has had no stake at all in the character to appear and grant you something you want (empowerment from Jullias) but really have no right to demand.