"IRCheat" and "ICheatQ"

"IRCheat" and "ICheatQ":
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Posted by Ven on January 16, 2000 at 12:19:46:

In Reply to: Re: Essay/Suggestion: The flow of information. posted by Chalupah on January 16, 2000 at 11:44:58:

> I didn't read through all of this, because I got bored, but as far as IRC and ICQ go.. I know that at least on irc, ooc sharing is not nearly as bad as you apparently seem to think.. most people either won't answer your questions or give you vague answers, or whatnot.. anyways, maybe it's just me, but usually the conversation in #cf and the like is either about hypothetical situations to kill Zorszaul, or else about things that have nothing at all to do with mudding or cf.. For those of you avoiding #cf and IRC because of its reputation as "cheating".. you might be pleasantly surprised at how damn funny some of the people in there are.. if nothing else, it gives you something to do while you're sleeping.

The cheating he was referring to on #cf obviously does not happen in the main channel. That would make the cheaters look bad, obviously, and then they would run the risk of allowing others to know their forbidden knowledge.

Here's what I've seen. People log on as their character's name or make references to the character they play or ones they have played. That's fine. People send private messages to them talking about the characters. Fine. Eventually there's the "elite" #cf crowd that knows everyone else's characters. They roll up characters together, sometimes cheating with their higher level characters as well. Things that in the mud would be akward such as identifying things and trying to relate their stats are completely circumvented because they can just send a /msg. In a lot of ways its like a computer lab group. Only on #cf you can get stabbed in the back and not be able to kick them in the ass the next day.

ICQ is pretty much another version of this, but the alert noise you get when someone sends you a message helps to ensure that you can log on your character quickly and help defend/raid/whatever.

That's not to say its all bad. Surely the conversation in #cf can be pretty immature at times, but its still entertaining. And obviously not everyone uses it to cheat, it just appears that way to someone with as pure of a conscious as myself. Sinners all, you'll burn in Hell.

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garble etc is useless when person x has everyone in their group on icq - just a point - there are other advantages nt Niblaznacker 17:35:54 1/18/2000 (0)
Precisely. Stahlhagen 15:50:08 1/16/2000 (0)

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Comments:	> > I didn't read through all of this, because I got bored, but as far as IRC and ICQ go.. I know that at least on irc, ooc sharing is not nearly as bad as you apparently seem to think.. most people either won't answer your questions or give you vague answers, or whatnot.. anyways, maybe it's just me, but usually the conversation in #cf and the like is either about hypothetical situations to kill Zorszaul, or else about things that have nothing at all to do with mudding or cf.. For those of you avoiding #cf and IRC because of its reputation as "cheating".. you might be pleasantly surprised at how damn funny some of the people in there are.. if nothing else, it gives you something to do while you're sleeping. > The cheating he was referring to on #cf obviously does not happen in the main channel. That would make the cheaters look bad, obviously, and then they would run the risk of allowing others to know their forbidden knowledge. > Here's what I've seen. People log on as their character's name or make references to the character they play or ones they have played. That's fine. People send private messages to them talking about the characters. Fine. Eventually there's the "elite" #cf crowd that knows everyone else's characters. They roll up characters together, sometimes cheating with their higher level characters as well. Things that in the mud would be akward such as identifying things and trying to relate their stats are completely circumvented because they can just send a /msg. In a lot of ways its like a computer lab group. Only on #cf you can get stabbed in the back and not be able to kick them in the ass the next day. > ICQ is pretty much another version of this, but the alert noise you get when someone sends you a message helps to ensure that you can log on your character quickly and help defend/raid/whatever. > That's not to say its all bad. Surely the conversation in #cf can be pretty immature at times, but its still entertaining. And obviously not everyone uses it to cheat, it just appears that way to someone with as pure of a conscious as myself. Sinners all, you'll burn in Hell.

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