Well, here is my take..

Well, here is my take..:
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Posted by Elandren(VIP) on August 17, 1999 at 00:52:44:

In Reply to: nope posted by Ug on August 17, 1999 at 00:28:52:

> There are two kinds of lag.
> 1. Is the kind you're thinking of: Mud-based lag, where the command hits the MUD, but the mud doesn't decide to process it for some time. That's where you see the command on the screen, but nothing happens for quite some time.
> 2. Is the kind I get. That's where you enter a command, but between the time it leaves your pc to the time it hits the mud is major lag. I.e., when I had the earlier fight, I typed impale. Due to lag on my ISP or bounces to the mud, it didn't actually 'hit' the mud until later. When you see the command is not when I typed it, but when the mud 'accepts' it. So, although I had typed Impale some time back, the mud didn't accept it until some time later, and processed it fairly quickly, leading me to believe that this lag was isp/route based. I've had lots of experience with this kind of lag, and am intimately familiar with it.
Right on, I get the #2 lag all the time too.
But..Here is the log of the fight:

In your dreams, or what?
>>>Now this is presumably from a spammed impale, but is not important
<644hp 312m 592mv> impale
>>>ok lets call this impale #1
Someone's backstab does UNSPEAKABLE things to you!
That really did HURT!
You sure are BLEEDING!
Your bindings trip you up and cause you to fall!
>>> Now here is a skill based lag (about like a trip i beleive)
You yell 'Help! I've been backstabbed!'
Someone has a few scratches.

<66hp 312m 592mv>
Your pierce decimates someone!
Someone dodges your pierce.
Someone parries your pierce.
You parry someone's drowning.
Your defensive spin deflects someone's drowning.
Someone has a few scratches.

<66hp 312m 592mv> impale
>>>>This here is impale #2 (above)
>>>>But below is impale #1, 1 round after the backstab
>>>>The slight "lag" is due to tripping up on your bindings
You try to drive something through someone but miss and step too close.
Someone's drowning MANGLES you!
You have been KILLED!!
wo

You turn into an invincible ghost for a few minutes.
As long as you don't attack anything.

<1hp 1m 592mv> Nah... You feel too relaxed...
>>>> And here we have impale #2

So I can't see how you can say this instance was based
on isp lag.

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One more thing... JoeBob 10:08:30 8/17/99 (1)
- You're all forgetting to ask why the hell he was spamming impale? Like I said, learn to use it. :P n/t Felar Warrior of Yore 03:50:05 8/18/99 (0)

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Comments:	> > There are two kinds of lag. > > 1. Is the kind you're thinking of: Mud-based lag, where the command hits the MUD, but the mud doesn't decide to process it for some time. That's where you see the command on the screen, but nothing happens for quite some time. > > 2. Is the kind I get. That's where you enter a command, but between the time it leaves your pc to the time it hits the mud is major lag. I.e., when I had the earlier fight, I typed impale. Due to lag on my ISP or bounces to the mud, it didn't actually 'hit' the mud until later. When you see the command is not when I typed it, but when the mud 'accepts' it. So, although I had typed Impale some time back, the mud didn't accept it until some time later, and processed it fairly quickly, leading me to believe that this lag was isp/route based. I've had lots of experience with this kind of lag, and am intimately familiar with it. > Right on, I get the #2 lag all the time too. > But..Here is the log of the fight: > In your dreams, or what? > >>>Now this is presumably from a spammed impale, but is not important > <644hp 312m 592mv> impale > >>>ok lets call this impale #1 > Someone's backstab does UNSPEAKABLE things to you! > That really did HURT! > You sure are BLEEDING! > Your bindings trip you up and cause you to fall! > >>> Now here is a skill based lag (about like a trip i beleive) > You yell 'Help! I've been backstabbed!' > Someone has a few scratches. > <66hp 312m 592mv> > Your pierce decimates someone! > Someone dodges your pierce. > Someone parries your pierce. > You parry someone's drowning. > Your defensive spin deflects someone's drowning. > Someone has a few scratches. > <66hp 312m 592mv> impale > >>>>This here is impale #2 (above) > >>>>But below is impale #1, 1 round after the backstab > >>>>The slight "lag" is due to tripping up on your bindings > You try to drive something through someone but miss and step too close. > Someone's drowning MANGLES you! > You have been KILLED!! > wo > You turn into an invincible ghost for a few minutes. > As long as you don't attack anything. > <1hp 1m 592mv> Nah... You feel too relaxed... > >>>> And here we have impale #2 > So I can't see how you can say this instance was based > on isp lag.

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