Nitpicking (but it's an important nit)

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Posted by Nepenthe on October 14, 1999 at 23:33:23:

In Reply to: You've just proved my point. posted by Diarmuid/Graatch on October 14, 1999 at 16:20:52:

> Sure, anyone can go get a mob charmie,

That's where you're wrong, and I think it strikes to the heart of the main point you seem to be missing. Anyone can go get a mob charmie. . . except Battle. Anyone can quaff a potion of return when the excrement hits the fan. . .except Battle. Anyone can quaff a potion of fly to get up to Arial City in a pinch. . .except Battle. Anyone can wear one of the hundreds of objects in Thera that do special things in combat (hammer pendants, embossed rings, etc) . . .except Battle.
And so on. I haven't even mentioned some of the best stuff here yet, including a few things that don't even require friends or extensive pregathering of objects.

There's an awful lot Battle can't do that the whole rest of CF can. Their powers are, in part, intended to make up for that.

I'm trying hard to be civil and not jump down your throat here, Diarmuid, because I really don't think you're a dumb guy. What you are, at least with respect to CF in my opinion, is egocentric as all hell. You seem to have a very difficult time looking beyond the scope of whatever you're playing at the time and seeing things fairly from the other guy's side. I listened to you complain for a long time about bearcharge over the cabal channel, but I swear if you'd somehow played a bearcharge-happy ranger for a few hours you'd quickly see holes in it that you didn't while locked into the Master invoker perspective. I listened to you complain everytime you got assassinated, claiming it was a total luck skill and there was nothing you could do, but I promise you if you made an assassin and tried to assassinate other players you'd have a bag full of assassination countertactics in a few hours (if you kept your eyes open) simply because other players would take certain actions that made it harder or impossible for you to do so without even meaning to thwart you. I've listened to you complain about spellbane and claim it's nearly totally effective, but I still see Battle die every day solely to invoker's area spells. When you're pissed about something, take a deep breath, relax, and try hard to see it from the other side. That's all I'm asking.

As an interesting aside to anyone else who read through that, we (the immortals) still hear complaints from players who are deeply convinced we despise Battle and are intentionally setting them up to be weak and lose.
There's no pleasing everyone.

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Just a few things. And I appreciate the reasonableness of your posting, unlike some who simply choose to be insulting or flame. Diarmuid/Graatch 04:40:17 10/15/99 (3)
- Re: Just a few things. And I appreciate the reasonableness of your posting, unlike some who simply choose to be insulting or flame. Klaak 06:22:09 10/15/99 (0)
- Re: Reason for Powers Domenias 05:34:39 10/15/99 (1)
  - You are missing the point. Diarmuid 05:54:53 10/15/99 (0)

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Comments:	> > Sure, anyone can go get a mob charmie, > That's where you're wrong, and I think it strikes to the heart of the main point you seem to be missing. Anyone can go get a mob charmie. . . <i>except Battle.</i> Anyone can quaff a potion of return when the excrement hits the fan. . .except Battle. Anyone can quaff a potion of fly to get up to Arial City in a pinch. . .except Battle. Anyone can wear one of the hundreds of objects in Thera that do special things in combat (hammer pendants, embossed rings, etc) . . .except Battle. > And so on. I haven't even mentioned some of the best stuff here yet, including a few things that don't even require friends or extensive pregathering of objects. > There's an awful lot Battle can't do that the whole rest of CF can. Their powers are, in part, intended to make up for that. > I'm trying hard to be civil and not jump down your throat here, Diarmuid, because I really don't think you're a dumb guy. What you are, at least with respect to CF in my opinion, is egocentric as all hell. You seem to have a very difficult time looking beyond the scope of whatever you're playing at the time and seeing things fairly from the other guy's side. I listened to you complain for a long time about bearcharge over the cabal channel, but I swear if you'd somehow played a bearcharge-happy ranger for a few hours you'd quickly see holes in it that you didn't while locked into the Master invoker perspective. I listened to you complain everytime you got assassinated, claiming it was a total luck skill and there was nothing you could do, but I promise you if you made an assassin and tried to assassinate other players you'd have a bag full of assassination countertactics in a few hours (if you kept your eyes open) simply because other players would take certain actions that made it harder or impossible for you to do so without even meaning to thwart you. I've listened to you complain about spellbane and claim it's nearly totally effective, but I still see Battle die every day solely to invoker's area spells. When you're pissed about something, take a deep breath, relax, and try hard to see it from the other side. That's all I'm asking. > As an interesting aside to anyone else who read through that, we (the immortals) <i>still</i> hear complaints from players who are deeply convinced we despise Battle and are intentionally setting them up to be weak and lose. > There's no pleasing everyone.

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