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Posted by Hifflio on September 29, 2000 at 22:13:50:

In Reply to: Re: posted by Rooqweaz on September 29, 2000 at 14:10:38:

> Well, you wasn't a bad player
> but I had a feeling that you just use people.

> reading your post:

> "I spent XXX hours in emoting with Tiamat (somebody would call it roleplaying) and now, Nepenthe, you have to code me a form or I will be disappointed."

> It looks silly.

I enjoy challenges. Part of the challenge is trying to get a quest form.
I also enjoy roleplaying the character very much and I am NOT disappointed how
it ended beyond the point that I didn't get to see this cool form created for me.
(which I am absolutely thankful for).
> did you enjoy your emoting with a silent mob?
> possible answers:
> 1) you did -> so, why you are dissapointed?
> you did a thing you liked and enjoyed it.
> 2) you did not -> WHY you did it then?
> only to gain a reward?

> you ranked to hero and spent 300+ hours without any form:
> did you enjoy your playing without a form?
> possible answers:
> 1) you did -> why you are disapointed? you enjoyed a lot, what more you need?
> 2) you did not -> WHY you did it then? to gain a reward? where other masters happy when you was out of
> defending/raiding 300+ hours of your life?
> Where they happy to support you while you were working
> to get your rewards?

Support me? Hell I was the only one defending for the longest time. As I said before I love
playing the underdog and I love playing strange combos (of which many of the immortals can probably
agree with me). I was not OUT of defending/raiding, I was the more effective raider/defender than
most Masters. Xeren agrees in his post. He stated (in general form) I don't know how you killed ragers
without forms and halt person, but you always did it. Hell, I killed minalcar by myself without forms
with just halt person and a damn staff of striking! The obvious power of your character is not what
your true power is, something you seem to be unable to grasp.

> the thing is simple:
> in first hand you have to think what you bring to the game, what you GIVE to people
> and the reward will find you even if you don't look for it (nearest example is Flontinot)
> But when you hard-ass-work for OBTAINITNG the reward,
> when your life is devoted to an achivement of such goal
> you begin to use people for you purposes and don't give
> anything them. And the frustuation would be walking around waiting for you to make any wrong step.

I severely doubt there is anyone out there that feels used by Hifflio, RL player/IC character. I roleplayed
my role and if anything, everyone around me benefited. I can surely say that the Tower benefited because I
took it and brought it back to its feet. I am sure me being consistant in my roleplay brought benefits to everyone
around me as well.
The problem here is this, I'm not angry I did not get a quest form. I am very happy how things turned out in general.
If I was an immortal I would have done things a little different, but hey thats me and I unfortunately have
this thing in me that wants everyone to live up to high standards. A flaw, you bet, a benefit, you bet as well.
I don't know how many ignorant roleplayers I ran into with Hifflio that I helped to look at the game a better way.
And this was done through just speaking with them and slowly making them see what I was trying to do. And many times
later I had people thanking me.
So using people, I don't think so friend. Trying to be the best damn Master leader/dragon mage/Zulghinlour follower?
You damn bet. If the character stepped on some toes, oh well life hurts (as I have felt seeing that little tidbit of
the form I missed) but as a player I don't think I used anyone. So try to substantiate your claims before you spout
your mouth off Rooqeaw. It is unfortunate, my other characters and myself had respect for you until this point.
lata,
Hif

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